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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Sep 29, 2012 8:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pono, Sonos & iPods my oh my!

Trail Grub says, "My shorts get dirty when I go out 'on patrol'. Rather than Photoshoping clean this image of my dirty shorts for you, I cleaned them up by doing my laundry instead. Who woulda thunk it? "

The Archive's village idiot in-Chief writes music review with common sense
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Will Neil Young use Foxconn slave workers in China to make PONOs?

None of Apple's products are made in the USA. The problem is how they are made. Apple uses slave laborers living in Foxconn concentration camps to produce all of their devices. This is immoral! Other outfits using Foxconn's slave workers are HP, Dell, Microsoft, Sony, Nokia, IBM, and many more. This is immoral! To ignore this, and let this "go down", is immoral! I am ashamed to be seen in public using an iPhone! You won't see me doing that, but I'm trying like heck to have this rational discussion.

Has Neil mentioned anything about hosting PONO music files? The bandwidth required and the file-size difference between MP3 and 24-bit / 192-kHz is enormous. Let's examine my recently reworked and upgraded tapes for June 10, 1973 to see this data. For MP3 files of this show, the VBR Zip file is 370 MB. For 16 / 44 files of this show, the total size is 1.565 GB. For 24 / 96 files of this show, the total size is 6.292 GB. I'll venture a guess: for 24 / 192 files of this show, the total size will be doubled to 12.584 GB. Why does file size matter?

Power, Pollution and the Internet: Data Centers & The Cloud Factories - published several days ago in the NY Times.

A yearlong examination by The New York Times has revealed that this foundation of the information industry is sharply at odds with its image of sleek efficiency and environmental friendliness. Most data centers, by design, consume vast amounts of energy in an incongruously wasteful manner, interviews and documents show. Online companies typically run their facilities at maximum capacity around the clock, whatever the demand. As a result, data centers can waste 90 percent or more of the electricity they pull off the grid, The Times found.

Worldwide, the digital warehouses use about 30 billion watts of electricity, roughly equivalent to the output of 30 nuclear power plants, according to estimates industry experts compiled for The Times. Data centers in the United States account for one-quarter to one-third of that load, the estimates show.

“It’s staggering for most people, even people in the industry, to understand the numbers, the sheer size of these systems,” said Peter Gross, who helped design hundreds of data centers. “A single data center can take more power than a medium-size town.”

Energy efficiency varies widely from company to company. But at the request of The Times, the consulting firm McKinsey & Company analyzed energy use by data centers and found that, on average, they were using only 6 percent to 12 percent of the electricity powering their servers to perform computations. The rest was essentially used to keep servers idling and ready in case of a surge in activity that could slow or crash their operations.

“It’s a waste,” said Dennis P. Symanski, a senior researcher at the Electric Power Research Institute, a nonprofit industry group. “It’s too many insurance policies.”

Neil, wasting precious resources like this — on this scale — is immoral, especially when most of these devices are made by slaves living in concentration camps! Have you considered these factors, and are you discussing them? Not to mention, we have a severe and growing Earth problem called global warming and climate change. This stuff affects all of our lives, especially our kids and their kids. Blow Me!

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Sep 29, 2012 7:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pono, Sonos & iPods my oh my!

"Has Neil mentioned anything about hosting PONO music files?"

Well, candidly speaking, what we actually know so far regarding the architecture of the Pono is pure speculation other than the physical appearance of the prototype. I believe that Neil understands the technology but he sure ain't given anything away so far. I mean for all we know this technology could be 192kHz, 32 bit audio.

My understanding is that FLAC cannot be supported for playback in portable audio devices and i would suspect that there are engineers working on a new algorithm that would offer a similar level of compression (50%) when compared to FLAC without effecting the linearity when decompressed.

Monte, if memory serves me well there are 300 days of sunshine on the front range in Colorado, perhaps you should consider going 100% solar.

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Poster: Deadhead225 Date: Sep 29, 2012 10:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pono, Sonos & iPods my oh my!

The problem is that the way the grid works, it can not anticipate future demand enough to be dependable at variable levels of output. It can not be powered up in a hurry. The same is true with server farms. Both have to operate at consistent output levels so that demand can be met when it arises. The only way that peak demand can be met is by producing at those levels when the demand is not there. Totally inefficient but until that is resolved, you may as well use all the electricity being generated b/c the pollution is getting produced regardless of whether energy is used by the consumer or not.

To me the best solution for this is to encourage the 24 Hr. society where we use the infrastructure more consistently 24 Hrs a day instead of building more. Just get more people to use it at night/non-peak hours. Hell, the lights are on anyway. Cuts down on crime, waste traffic etc. Anyone in the city knows they'd rather commute at 12 a.m. Any cop knows that most of the crime occurs during these hours as well. More people around = less crime.

With the level of energy production we are now capable of in the US it won't be long before we return to being a Manuf. nation as we will have the cheapest combined energy and labor cost on the planet ($3 nat gas v. $12 in China). USA is a happy prosperous place when we are working with our hands AND minds. Soon as we stick somebody with all this debt we'll be on the road again.

Mother Nature will reduce the population soon enough by some method eventually, so not to worry.